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Hello and welcome to Coffee Hair Shots, Spectators daily politics podcast. I'm Katie Balls

and I'm drone med James Syford Fraser Nelson. We'll the government finally take firm action when

it comes to the strikes. A few measures around discussion as Christmas accept to be dominated by

strikes in various forms, whether it is the postal service, to airplanes, to trains,

to ambulances. James, what's under discussion at the moment?

So I think at the moment there are two pieces of legislation that are closely around as ideas

in Tory circles. One is something that Tory party manifesto commit to two that they still

haven't legislated for, which is minimum service guarantees. So yes, train workers for example

could go on strike, but they would still have to run a bare-bone service even when they're on strike.

The other idea is should strikes by, for example, ambulance drivers be banned in the same

way that the armed forces can't go on strike. And I think this has been, this sentence has been

reinforced by looking at the practicalities of ambulance drivers going on strike, which I

meant to do on, I think, the 21st of December. When you have people debating whether

ambulance is, ambulance to say that they will still come out for category one, the most serious

calls. At the moment, category two calls are taking over an hour on average to be met when

it's meant to take 18 minutes on average for them to be met. And then the question is, you know,

what if, for example, someone falls down the stairs, will an ambulance now not come to see them

because it's not considered to be a life-fretting situation? So I think, I think you have these,

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