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One. Thanks for staying with us through the intro and really glad to be with you.

As you know, we are the show foring America of one enslaved mind at a time. And you see on the screen here, or you're going

to hear her voice here in just a minute, an old favorite of ours. Lisa Haven, Lisa and I've known

each other for years and years and years. And she's been a frequent guest on our show, not as often

recently as I'd like, but we'll try to

correct that because she's a wealth of information.

And although the UFO thing has kind of died down, I wanted to spend just a little bit of

time asking Lisa, her interpretation of this.

Now, you know mine.

I was fascinated by the topic, but we also thought the disclosures had an air of phoniness to it because of this. Now, you know mine. I was fascinated by the topic, but we also thought the disclosures

had an air of phoniness to it because of timing. And we'll discuss that with her. But Lisa,

welcome to the show. It's been too long. I'm glad you're back with us. You've been doing

some great, great work. Every time I turn around, someone's sending me something about you

and what you're doing,

and I just said, okay, you know, I've got to be persistent. You went on vacation. I went on vacation.

We had a hard time hooking up, but here we are. Well, I'm excited to be here. Thank you so much for

bringing me on. It's really our pleasure. Well, the UFO thing, I have to tell you, I have mixed feelings.

I go back to my childhood days of Betty and Barney Hill, and the fact that Betty Hill could

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