Are E-bikes Just Mountain Bikes With Motors? We Asked a Bike Designer
Singletracks Mountain Bike Podcast
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🗓️ 2 August 2022
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Mike Giese is an industrial designer based in Salt Lake City who has designed products for bike brands like Revel, Trust, and most recently, Evil Bikes. Evil just announced their first electric mountain bike, and we’re curious to learn about some of the design challenges that were involved.
In this episode we ask:
- How do industrial designers and engineers work together? Does one usually take the lead on starting a new bike project, or are you working in parallel from the beginning?
- Is it beneficial, or even possible, to simply take an existing mountain bike design and electrify it? Or is it better to start from scratch? Why?
- Evil is using a Shimano e-drive system in the new Epocalypse. Is choosing the drive system one of the first steps? Why choose Shimano for this bike?
- What are the challenges involved in designing a frame to accommodate a motor and battery?
- Are there any unique challenges with wiring, or is it pretty similar to internal cable and hose routing?
- How do build kit considerations differ for an e-bike vs. a traditional mountain bike?
- We’re seeing e-bike innovations, particularly in components like tires and brakes, trickling down to traditional bikes. Are there similar opportunities when it comes to frames?
- Was the goal to give the e-bike a similar ride feel to other bikes in the Evil lineup, or did you see this as an opportunity to deliver something unique?
- How do you make decisions about touch points and usability for things like power switches and charging ports?
- Do you think e-bikes are closer in spirit to motorcycles or bicycles?
- Who do you see as the target customer for electric mountain bikes like this one? Is it geared toward more experienced riders, or do you think it will appeal more to folks who are new to the sport?
Check out some of Mike’s work at mikegiese.com, and see the new Evil bike at evil-bikes.com.
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| 0:49.2 | single tracks podcast. My name is Jeff and today my guest is Mike G Gizi. Mike is an industrial designer based in Salt |
| 0:58.0 | Lake City, who has designed products for bike brands like Revel, Trust, and most recently |
| 1:03.3 | Evil Bikes. Evil just announced their first electric mountain bike, the apocalypse, and we're |
| 1:09.8 | curious to learn about some of the design challenges |
| 1:12.7 | that were involved. Thanks for joining us, Mike. Hey, thanks for having. Definitely appreciate the |
| 1:19.0 | opportunity and definitely love the chance to talk shop. Yeah, right on. So what's your background? |
| 1:25.7 | How did you get into designing mountain bike products? |
| 1:28.6 | Yeah, so I mean, honestly, it's all just kind of fueled by my passion for two wheels. And that, you know, goes all the way to my upbringing. I grew up at the start of age eight racing motocross. And, you know, that was definitely very wellrained in our in our family we went to the track every weekend my my brother my dad my stepmom and myself um that was definitely a big part of our lives and um that definitely sparked the um you know sparked the um you know spark the flame for that two-wheel passion of mine which has really kind of got me to where I am today. |
| 2:07.9 | My first kind of hack-at, actually, you know, doing some sort of design work was having the opportunity to get a custom helmet painted when I was at age 11. |
| 2:13.0 | So my brother and I got some brand new, you know, white, shiny helmets. |
| 2:17.6 | We had the chance to sketch up some, you know, rudimentary colored pencil designs and gave those designs to the helmet painter who was actually like a local, local dude in town. |
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