Welcome, welcome. It's Justin Brieley with you for the show that aims to get you thinking every

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Conversations that matter and are really interesting one today on demons and exorcism,

Billy, Hallowell and Michael Schermer. And my guests I'll be introducing them in a short

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unbelievable. Just before we leap into today's show, this past week saw the release of a full

independent report on sexual misconduct by Ravi Zacharias. It is a shocking and sobering read.

My thoughts are with the victims and the many others who looked up to Ravi in a feeling utterly

betrayed and disillusioned by what is evidently very much a double life he was leading.

Sobering lessons here for anyone involved in Christian ministry. If you'd like more on that,

we do have news reports and response over at premiercrisian.news. And I'm going to be sharing some

of my personal response on this whole sad situation in the coming week. Just pray,

Lord, have mercy in what is just an awful, awful situation for so many people.

But later on in the show today, your feedback coming up on the issue of transgender

and Christianity really interesting feedback on this. So hold on for that at the end of the show.

And what an interesting discussion I have for you on today's program.

You're listening to unbelievable with Justin Briarly.

On today's show, we're asking our demons and exorcism for real. According to some reports,

demands for exorcism by priests has been on the rise in recent years. But is demonic possession

and exorcism a provable spiritual reality or does it belong in the realm of fantasy horror?

Billy Hallowell is a Christian journalist and author whose recent book Playing with Fire is a

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