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Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics, power, and prejudices.

This year, 2024, is an election year in America, a presidential election year.

And so we will be doing two podcasts a week, rather than our usual one, because we want to,

and because we know you can't get enough Americano in your life.

I'm delighted to be joined here and in the Spectator's office by Kate Andrews.

That's me.

The economics editor of The Spectator.

And Kate, I'm going to start with the boring partisan point that was made a lot after the Butler, Pennsylvania shooting, which is that Donald Trump is often blamed for the January 6th Capitol Hill rights, for his inflammatory rhetoric, for his incendiary

rhetoric that caused it. A lot of Republicans say the way Democrats talk about Donald Trump is the

reason people keep trying to kill him. They have a point,

don't they? I don't think it's a boring point. I think it's an important point because if you

are quite rightly, in my opinion, going to be a critic of what Donald Trump did on January 6th,

the way that he encouraged that crowd, the crowd to go to the capital, the way he talked about his own

vice president and put him in danger.

If you're going to be critical of that, you have to be critical of the language that is then

used against the former president. And that has become increasingly hyped up. It has become

increasingly intense. And to talk about Donald Trump as a dictator, as somebody whose hands

America would not be safe in, as somebody who simply, you know, could not be trusted,

were he to even win a democratic election, means that you are going to be encouraging this

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