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Inside the Hive

Are Democrats the Party of Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders?

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 January 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Inside the Hive host Brian Stelter explores the battle for the soul of the Democratic Party with Joshua Green, Bloomberg national correspondent and author of The Rebels. Green, who in his last book charted the right-wing populism of the Trump era, is now studying to the other side of the aisle, where popular figures like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez helped lead an economic "backlash" to the 2008 financial crisis that pulled the party leftward.

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read watch and hear. Vanity Fair. Josh, what do you think people get essentially wrong about Joe Biden and the kind of

0:53.8

president he's been. But he's the same kind of Democrat now that he was when he

0:59.3

came to Washington in the early 70s, you know, Mr Corporate America, best friend of business.

1:05.0

Mm. That's Joshua Green. His latest book is The Revels, Elizabeth Moore, Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Acasio Cortez,

1:14.0

and the struggle for a new American politics.

1:17.0

Josh is also a national correspondent for Bloomberg Business Week.

1:20.0

And I'm Brian Stelter.

1:22.0

Welcome to Vanity Fair's Inside the Hive.

1:25.0

This week, we're going inside the battle for the soul of the Democratic Party.

1:30.0

It's going to be one of the most important topics of the year as Biden seeks re-election.

1:35.3

And Josh, your book offers a framework for the 2024 election.

1:39.1

Trump populism versus a form of populism on the left, not necessarily identified with Biden, but with

1:46.2

figures like Warren and Sanders. So what is the populism of the left? Where did it come from?

1:57.0

Well, you know, I wanted to do this book on kind of the rise of left-wing populism to answer that question because in you know in my telling of the story what really kicked it off for Democrats was the financial

2:05.4

crisis of 2008 and the backlash to that crisis from the broad middle class of

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