Today we're going to discuss the big debate.

Are Democrats taking the bait by fighting the illegal deportation of migrants to El Salvador?

And I've got four interviews this week.

I speak with Gavin Newsom about his lawsuit against the Trump administration.

Senator Chris Van Hollen about going to El Salvador to meet with the illegally deported Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia.

John Favro about the political impacts of the immigration debate and Abdul Al-Sayyad about his campaign for Senate and Michigan.

I'm Brian Tyler Cohen, and you're listening to No Lie.

There was reporting in Axios that is driving a lot of the news coverage as it relates to Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia,

the immigrant who was illegally sent to a maximum security prison in El Salvador.

That reporting reads, The Second House Democrat who spoke anonymously, a maximum security prison in El Salvador. That reporting reads,

the second house Democrat who spoke anonymously, a centrist called the deportation issue a soup

de jour, arguing Trump is setting a trap for the Democrats and like usual, we're falling for it.

Quote, rather than talking about the tariff policy and the economy, the thing where his numbers

are tanking, we're going to take the bait for one

hairdresser, they said, likely referring to Andrew Hernandez-Ramero. Only if Trump tries to deport

U.S. citizens, the lawmaker argued, well, Democrats need to draw a line in the sand and shut down the

house. So let's talk about this, because I understand that there are people who say Democrats'

worst issue is immigration at a moment where Trump is quite

literally destroying our economy, which, you know, if 2024 showed us anything, is a major issue to

exploit, a potent issue to exploit, we should be focusing on that. Two things here. One, we should

focus on that. And we do focus on that. I talk about the economy every single day. I talk about the

impacts of Trump's idiotic tariffs on our stock market, on our 401ks, on the cost of everyday goods.

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