Are Consistent Calvinists Real Christians?
Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers
Leighton Flowers
4.8 • 826 Ratings
🗓️ 22 October 2015
⏱️ 71 minutes
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Summary
Tony Miano recently apologized for his offensive comments regarding Michael Brown not being saved (kind of) and the Bible Thumping Wingnuts, Len, Andrew and Tim, address this on their show. In their discussion, the old ACCUSATION of MISREPRESENTATION (i.e "you are ignorant of my view") was leveled toward me. I unpack why this strawman fallacy and accusations of it will always continue in these types of discussions. I also agree with Tim and Len regarding Jeff Durbin's avoidance tactics...and give another example of Jeff's unwillingness to engage the real debate with those who disagree.
Remember brethren, we can disagree with each other and be respectful while doing it! Let's dive in!
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| 0:00.0 | Layton Flowers claims to have been a Calvin's, and yet when he argues against it, every time he opens his mouth, he sounds completely ignorant on the doctrines of grace. |
| 0:12.1 | Why you gotta be so rude? |
| 0:15.0 | Don't you know I'm Christian too? |
| 0:18.0 | Why you gotta be so rude? I'm gonna question you anyway. |
| 0:24.4 | Broadcasting worldwide from the great state of Texas from the academic media center |
| 0:30.1 | of Soteriology 101.com. The online university classroom. Your campus, your voice, your podcast on demand. In-depth theology |
| 0:41.0 | meant for all. And when we say all, we mean everyone. Your host, an adjunct professor of theology, |
| 0:49.1 | the director of youth evangelism for Texas Baptists, a local teaching pastor. |
| 0:54.8 | Welcome now, Professor Layton Flowers. |
| 1:00.8 | Okay, let's dive right in. |
| 1:02.4 | That was the Bible thumping wingnut podcast that you just heard. |
| 1:06.2 | That was Lynn Pettus. |
| 1:07.5 | And he and I are, I would consider us friends to some degree. We have engaged with |
| 1:12.7 | one another on Google Hangouts and other things, and obviously he's a Calvinist and he disagrees |
| 1:17.1 | with me, and this link was sent to me because my name was invoked. But this podcast was like |
| 1:22.5 | a two-hour podcast, and they were discussing a lot of different issues. And the issue they're |
| 1:26.9 | discussing at this point in the podcast has to do with Tony Migno's controversial statement about Michael Brown not being a Christian because he's an Armenian. And they go back and forth. And to their credit, I think they're disavowing that kind of statement. They don't agree with that kind of conclusion. |
| 1:44.8 | And so they make a lot of, I think, valid points that are worth your while to listen to. |
| 1:49.6 | And I agree with a lot of what they say. |
| 1:52.1 | However, we oftentimes hear this accusation of misrepresentation brought to bear in these conversations. |
| 2:00.5 | We hear this oftentimes referred to as the straw man fallacy. |
| 2:05.4 | The straw man fallacy is when you set up a straw man and you just beat it up or you kick it, |
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