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🗓️ 14 January 2019
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| 0:00.0 | Well, listen our emails to us. |
| 0:06.0 | So Romans 9, the chapter Romans 9 has been mentioned almost 300 times in emails. |
| 0:12.1 | Lots of questions about that chapter. |
| 0:13.7 | Today a question about why Calvinists so often speak of election of believers as unconditional, |
| 0:19.6 | but the reprobation of the non-elect as conditional. |
| 0:22.9 | It's a question today from Henry, dear Pastor John, hello. |
| 0:27.3 | In Romans 9, 10-13, Paul says God loved Jacob and hated Esau before either had done anything |
| 0:34.9 | good or bad. |
| 0:35.9 | I've heard many Calvinists say election has nothing to do with works alone good or bad |
| 0:40.6 | present or foreseen. |
| 0:42.5 | That's true and glorious. |
| 0:44.3 | However, many of those same Calvinists say that when God predestines people to hell, he |
| 0:50.0 | ensures that they are deserving a judgment due to their past sins. |
| 0:54.2 | This sounds contradictory to me. |
| 0:56.8 | If election is unconditional, why is partition here so often presented as a conditional response? |
| 1:05.2 | Let's put the text, the key text in front of us and make sure we understand the question |
| 1:10.4 | in context. |
| 1:11.4 | Here's what Paul wrote in Romans 9, 11-13, though Jacob and Esau were not yet born and |
| 1:20.4 | had done nothing either good or bad, really important, really important. |
| 1:27.6 | They had done nothing good or bad. |
| 1:29.9 | In order that, Paul is explaining why he chooses the way he does, in order that God's purpose |
| 1:39.4 | of election might continue not because of works, but because of, and you might expect him |
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