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The Indicator from Planet Money

Are both rents AND interest rates too dang high?

The Indicator from Planet Money

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🗓️ 31 July 2024

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

The Federal Reserve has once again opted to leave interest rates unchanged. That appears to be creating a big challenge to one part of the economy: housing prices. Today, we look at how elevated interest rates may actually be keeping home prices and rent high. Plus, we see how one community is taking the issue of housing affordability into its own hands.

Read the research paper co-authored by Julia Fonseca, Lu Liu, and Pierre Mabille.

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0:00.0

NPR. This is the indicator from Planet Money, I'm Teriam Woods.

0:15.0

And I'm Whelan Wong.

0:16.5

So there are these basic economic principles that you have heard many times on this very show. Here's one. When inflation is high, the

0:25.2

Federal Reserve raises interest rates to cool down the economy and get prices

0:29.9

under control. Yeah, I think I started to mumble about this in my sleeve like tossing and turning, muttering 2%

0:36.7

inflation target, your own pal, rate hikes.

0:41.4

But there is one part of the economy, a really important part, that is upending what we know

0:46.1

about how the Fed brings down inflation.

0:49.0

We're talking about the housing market and what economists call shelter inflation.

0:53.6

That's a component of the Consumer Price Index that includes rents.

0:57.4

Yeah, the housing market is posing this huge challenge for the Fed right now,

1:01.9

because it turns out that the Fed's main tool for

1:04.3

bringing down inflation, higher interest rates, may actually lead to higher home

1:09.5

prices and rents. High interest rates leading to higher prices.

1:14.1

It's like we've entered some kind of fun house economy, although I don't think the Fed would

1:17.7

describe the situation as fun, because with shelter inflation staying high that potentially delays the Fed

1:23.8

getting to its 2% target which means they have to keep interest rates high.

1:27.8

The Federal Reserve decided today to keep rates unchanged and

1:32.1

signaled that they could come down as soon as September.

1:35.6

Today on the show we explain this housing market conundrum and how it shows the limits

1:41.4

of the Fed's power when it comes to a part of the economy that affects basically every American.

1:47.0

We'll also look at how one community is taking matters into its own hands when it comes to housing affordability.

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