Are Big Sanctions Coming for a Chinese Tech Company?

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🗓️ 3 June 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In May, news came out that the U.S. government was thinking of putting the Chinese video surveillance company Hikvision on the Treasury Department’s Specially Designated Nationals list, otherwise known as the SDN list. The move would have huge impacts on Hikvision’s business prospects in the U.S. and around the world and would represent yet another escalation in the way that the U.S. government handles Chinese technology companies.

To talk through the news and why it's so significant, Jacob Schulz sat down with Katrina Northrop, a reporter at The Wire China who wrote a story about the Hikvision saga, and Alex Iftimie, a partner at Morrison & Foerster and a former official within the National Security Division at the Justice Department.

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0:29.0	It's incredibly hard to develop a strategy for a relationship like
0:39.0	the US China relationship, which has political and economic insecurity dimensions,
0:45.0	and is constantly shifting with things like Ukraine.
0:49.0	So it's hard for them to lay out some overarching silver bullet strategy document.
0:55.0	But one thing that they have been very clear about and is evident in these potential sanctions
1:03.0	is their emphasis on human rights that has been a focus of the Biden administration,
1:09.0	the Blinken of NSC, and if they do sanction hike vision,
1:15.0	that would show they are willing to use even more tools to address those concerns.
1:21.0	I can't say I see this fitting clearly into some overarching strategy,
1:27.0	but I would say it reflects their focus on human rights.
1:33.0	I'm Jacob Schultz, and this is the LawFair podcast June 3rd, 2022.
1:41.0	In May, news came out that the US government was thinking of putting
1:45.0	the Chinese video surveillance company, hike vision,
1:49.0	on the Treasury Department's specially designated nationals list,
1:53.0	otherwise known as the SD AdMist.
1:55.0	The move would have huge impacts on hike vision's business prospects
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