Giday, humans. Welcome to the Contrarian Playground, the safe space for dangerous ideas. Today on the show, Sarah Wilson, look, she is the author, the founder of an entire movement. The book is called I Quit Sugar. But you might remember the I Quit Sugar movement, which became a sort of a global phenomenon, oh, about a decade ago, and all of a sudden everybody was not, was off sugar

for a while. Sarah is the mastermind behind that trend. And yet, I didn't really want to talk to

her about sugar or nutrition. I wanted to talk to her about herself, about communication, about what

is wrong with men and what the expectations are on women and what holds Australia back

and whether I agree with any of her interpretations about any of those things. And most importantly, how we can

understand each other better. Sarah is wonderful, beautiful, thoughtful, honest, raw, motivated

upfront about the fact that she suffers from anxiety. She's a multi-New York Times best-selling

author. She's an Amazon best-selling author. She's a podcast. You should listen to her podcast, which is called Wild by Sarah Wilson. And she has interviews with big guests. I mean, guests that even make this show's roster blush. See ya. She interviewed Seah. I've been interviewed been interviewed sea sea can you come on the show i like sea quite

partial to see her anyway uh sarah's great uh i hope that you love her if this is your first introduction

to her show she was also a television presenter a television host she hosted master chef in australia

and she was an editor of cosmopolitan magazine so she's a journal she's one of these all-round people who some people find it hard to peg, but as a result, I quite like the cut of those people's jib because they've got a lot of fingers and a lot of pies, a lot of interesting ideas about things. Oh and before I go, I should mention the substack, the upcoming and pending substack. So this show is growing faster than we can cope with.

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Without further ado, please enjoy the heterodox thinker, the one and only, Sarah Wilson.

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