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What was the most scandalous thing that happened at Apor last week?

There was one gentleman.

He didn't interrupt because it was during the Q&A session, but he used the Q&A session to kind of get on his hobby horse about margin of error and nobody

talks about margin of error anymore and it wasn't really germane to the conversation and so it was a little and the moderator had to kind of politely

whoa oh my god that sounds scandalous it was about as as big of a deal as Watergate to be

honest as Watergate, to be honest. Hello and I to the 538 politics podcast. I'm Galen Druke. It's not a secret

that we are headed towards a presidential election that many Americans said

they didn't want. Somewhere in the range of 20% of Americans have an

unfavorable view of both former President Trump and President Biden. And if

ratings are any indication, a lot of folks seem to be tuning campaign news out.

So what does this pretend for turnout?

We've been in an era of high turnout elections since 2016, but will fatigue or even disdain keep people home this fall?

It's an important question for our democracy.

It's also an important question for polling.

Figuring out who will actually show up can be tricky,

and so far likely voter models show a more

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