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Erzan. He is Aaron McIntyre. We are going to be joined, in fact, right now by John Harris,

who's going to be our guest today on the day's group. John, good to see you, brother. How are you?

Good to see you, Steve. Doing very well. Have a documentary coming out later today.

Aaron gave me the permission to plug it on the largest Protestant denomination in the country,

the Southern Baptists, and their controversy for female pastors.

So we'll be looking out for that.

Tell our audience why this is a uniquely fundamental issue to the Southern Baptist Convention

in terms of articulating where someone truly stands on the broader theological issues that would be more of a touchstone

to the average American out there?

Sure.

So the title is Battle for the Bible, the female pastor controversy in the Southern Baptist

Convention, because this really is a battle for the Bible among the Southern Baptist.

They fought this battle in the late 80s, early 90s.

They won it.

They're fighting it again. It's in their governing documents for that particular body. So the Baptist

Faith and Message says that the office and function of a pastor is reserved for men. But there's

many churches that are rebelling against this and employing women pastors, having them preach on Sunday

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