Are AI Browsers the Future with Josh Miller

Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast

Marques Brownlee

News, Hobbies, Technology, Tech News, Leisure

4.8 • 6.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Here we have it! This is the full interview with Josh Miller of The Browser Company where Marques, Andrew, and David ask him about Arc, Dia, and the future of browsers in general. Enjoy! Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	For the last 35 years, the Electronic Frontier Foundation has been fighting to make sure that when you go online, your rights come with you.
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1:09.9	Yeah, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome to a bonus episode of the Wayform podcast. This is a fun one. A lot of you've been expecting this one because we shouted it out in our last Friday episode where we talked briefly with Josh Miller, the CEO of the browser company. This is the full, unedited, hour-long interview, which has a lot of interesting
1:29.0	perspectives in it. It was good for all of us to get to sit down and talk to him about browsers,
1:33.3	about ARC, about DIA, and to actually get concrete answers on some things we were wondering about
1:38.7	what if Google tries to do exactly what you're doing. How will you get people who love ARC to
1:44.0	switch to DIA
1:44.6	and vice versa and could features bounce back and forth between them? A lot of interesting stuff.
1:48.8	So I'll just get right into it. This is a full conversation with Josh.
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