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Archive: Western Intervention and the Rise of Guerrilla Warfare, with David Kilcullen

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🗓️ 24 May 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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In this archive discussion from 2020, David Kilcullen, former soldier, diplomat, and senior counterinsurgency adviser for the US during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, explains the nature of past Western interventions and the guerrilla warfare resistance that has followed. He joined Carl Miller, Research Director at the Centre for the Analysis of Social Media at the think tank Demos, to discuss his book: The Dragons and the Snakes: How the Rest Learned to Fight the West. We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/IS for £100 sponsored credit. This is the second instalment of a two-part conversation. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all of our longer form interviews and Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events - Our member-only newsletter The Monthly Read, sent straight to your inbox ... Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series ... Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. ... Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to Intelligence Square, I'm Connor Boyle. On today's podcast an archive

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discussion with David Kilcullen, the former soldier, diplomat and military expert

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discusses the complexities and consequences of Western campaigns

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in locations ranging from Iraq to Afghanistan. We're revisiting a discussion from 2020 which looks at the nature of past Western

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interventions and the guerrilla warfare resistance that has followed.

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David Kilcullen is an expert and author on unconventional and guerrilla warfare, a former soldier

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and diplomat, he was a senior counter-insurgency advisor for the US during the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars.

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In 2020 David joined Carl Miller of the think tank demos to discuss the themes of his book,

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the Dragons and the Snakes, how the rest learned to fight the themes of his book, The Dragons and the Snakes,

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how the rest learn to fight the West.

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Here's Carl with more.

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David, hello.

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Hey, how are you?

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Very good. So you're described on an Al-Qaeda messaging board

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