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Amanpour

Archbishop of Chicago Cardinal Blase Cupich

Amanpour

CNN

News

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The public dispute between Donald Trump and Pope Leo continues. For perspective on this unexpected development, we turn today to one of America's most influential cardinals -- and the pope's staunch ally -Archbishop of Chicago Blase Cupich.  Also on today's show: author Nicholas Enrich ("Into the Woodchipper"); journalist/author Joanne Lipman ("That's What She Said"); Ukrainian journalist Alyona Synenko    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello everyone and welcome to Amonpur.

0:35.5

Here's what's coming up.

0:46.3

Whoa to those who manipulate religion in the very name of God for their own military, economic or political gain. Pope Leo ramps up his war of words against President Trump as he promotes peace around the world.

0:52.3

I speak with the Pontiff's close ally,

0:56.0

the Archbishop of Chicago Cardinal Blaise Suppage.

0:59.0

Then, into the woodchipper, a teller memoir

1:02.0

about the shredding of US aid and the grave human costs.

1:06.0

Whistleblower Nicholas Enrich joins me.

1:09.0

Plus, there's a fear of even mentioning the word women, female.

1:13.6

Are women being erased from the workplace?

1:16.6

Journalist Joanne Lipman tells Michelle Martin, yes they are.

1:20.6

Due to White House rollbacks on DEI policies,

1:23.6

also ahead defying war with fashion.

1:26.6

We hear about the Ukrainians keeping their spirits up with style.

1:31.3

The United Welcome to the program, everyone, I'm Christiana Manpur in London. God does not bless any conflict, the unwavering position of Pope Leo,

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