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On Being with Krista Tippett

Arab Aramin, Robi Damelin, Liora Eilon, Mohamed Abu Jafar — Turning Unbearable Loss Into Ground of Shared Life

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2026

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

From Krista: A few months ago, I was invited to sit with four people sharing a very different Israeli-Palestinian story than that which comes to us in headlines. They are members of the Parents Circle - Bereaved Families Forum, a very special community. It's composed of hundreds of Palestinian and Israeli families, who despite having paid the highest price of the conflict between their peoples, choose to metabolize their loss as ground of shared suffering and possible reconciliation. I’m so grateful to share that conversation with you now. You will hear their various stories of a transformation of perspective and path. You will hear me invoke a notion of "deep truth" from physics that is vividly with me in this time. Terrible ruptures and escalating violence are part of the truth of what we see ourselves capable. But they are not the whole truth, not the inevitable future. Courageous experiments in healing and transformation are also a reality of our time. In a packed room in New York City, I think we all felt like we were witnessing something unimaginable if you only judge the potentials of humanity from the extreme actions that shape what we call the news. The Bereaved Families Forum is extremism in a life-giving, heart-opening key. We left that room — and may you leave this listening — feeling a little bit healed ourselves, with a hopefulness become more magnetic and more reasonable. This event was hosted by the American Friends of the Parents Circle – Bereaved Israelis and Palestinians for Peace. My conversation partners were Robi Damelin, Arab Aramin, Mohamed Abu Jafar, and Liora Eilon. Liora, who lost her son in their kibbutz on October 7, 2023, is one of the newest members of this group. __ Listen to Krista’s original conversation with Robi Damelin and Ali Abu Awaad in the On Being podcast feed; the episode is called “No More Taking Sides”. And learn much more about this beautiful community at theparentscircle.org. The American Friends community website is parentscirclefriends.org. Find an excellent transcript of this show, edited by humans, on our show page. Sign yourself and others up for The Pause to be on our mailing list for all things On Being and to receive Krista's monthly Saturday newsletter, including a heads up on new episodes, special offerings, recommendations, and event invitations.

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A few months ago, I was invited to sit with four people sharing a very different Israeli-Palestinian story than that which comes to us in headlines.

0:10.0

They are members of the Parent Circle, Bereaved Families Forum, a very special community.

0:16.3

It's composed of hundreds of Palestinian and Israeli families, who, despite having paid the highest price of the conflict between their peoples, choose to metabolize their loss as ground of shared suffering and possible reconciliation.

0:32.1

I'm so delighted to share that conversation with you now. You will hear there various stories of a

0:38.6

transformation of perspective and path. You'll hear me invoke a notion of deep truth from physics

0:45.6

that is vividly with me in this time. Terrible ruptures and escalating violence are part of

0:52.3

the truth of what we see ourselves capable.

0:55.0

But they are not the whole truth and not the inevitable future.

0:59.0

Courageous experiments in healing and transformation are also a truth of our time.

1:05.0

In a packed room in New York City, I think we all felt like we were witnessing something unimaginable

1:11.5

if you only judge the potentials of humanity from the extreme actions that shape what we call

1:18.1

the news. The Bereaved Families Forum is extremism in a life-giving, heart-opening key.

1:25.5

We left that room, and may you leave this listening, feeling a little

1:29.9

bit healed ourselves, with a hopefulness, become more magnetic and more reasonable. I'm Krista Tippett,

1:37.2

and this is On Being. This event was hosted by the American Friends of the Parents' Circle,

1:51.9

bereaved Israelis and Palestinians for peace.

1:55.2

My conversation partners were Robi Damlin, Arab Arameen, Mohamed Abu Jaffer, and Liora Alan.

2:03.1

Leora, who lost her son in their kibbutz on October 7, 2023, is one of the newest members of this group.

2:11.4

We were hosted at an extraordinary private art studio and living space in Manhattan.

2:20.8

So, private art studio and living space in Manhattan. So I first steeped in the parent circle,

2:26.2

Breave Families Forum in the early 2000.

2:29.4

So, Ruby, we were wondering when that was in 2006.

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