Hello and welcome to the scriptures are real podcast. This is the podcast where we talk about things that have made the scriptures become real in our lives because we think the more real they are, the more we can draw power

out of them and we need that power in our lives today. I'm your host, Kerry Mielstein,

and I'm so happy to have with us today, April Cobb. I don't actually know April super well,

but she has started something that I'm a big fan of and that's an alumni association for

people who have been to the Jerusalem Center. I believe we were there just about a semester apart. I went in winter of 1994 as a student. It's where I met my wife. And I think you were there just right before that, weren't you, April? Yeah, fall 1993, which is where I met my husband. Oh, so there you go. So who knows, my wife may have taken your room. We got a few weeks later or something. But so we were just weeks apart from being there together, but not quite together. So anyway, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself, April?

Well, I live in Utah. I grew up in Southern California. And whereabouts? I grew up in San Juan Capistrano.

And back to my grandparents were from San Juan Capistrano.

And I had a great childhood.

My family owned a fruit stand.

And my dad was kind of entrepreneurial.

And we had firewood business and Christmas tree lots and all kinds of fun things.

It was a fun place to grow up.

Something interesting about me where it pertains to the gospel is when I was about 10 years old, my parents stopped going to church.

And I think that was probably maybe it started its Christmas tree season when they couldn't take the time off. And one thing

led to another. And I would get rides to church. And then by the time I was 12 years old, I had a

neighbor that I had been babysitting for who also happened to be the young women's second

counselor over the beehives. And she one day said, you know what, April,

we're just going to pick you up every week. So be ready at this time. And so every week I would be

ready and I would just go sit with like I'd go to church with their family and I would sit with

their family in San Clemente is where chapel was. And that went on through into college. I just, he was very close to the

Janard family. And they were such dear friends to me. But I loved the gospel. And I recognized early

that I just believed and I just knew that I liked the way that I felt when I was doing what was right and when I was

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