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So I can't talk, like small talk with people. I envy the people who can. They start up conversations. I can't do it.

I don't think people believe that because of what you do for a living. Yeah, well, right. Trust me.

I think I do this because I can't. Okay, that makes sense. I'm sitting there right next to some, I mean, the table right next to me at Starbucks this morning. And two ladies talking. And one's like, so I texted her, she's crazy. And I said, you're crazy. And I was mad about that. And then she said, and then I said, well, you then you, and then can you believe? And then she's talking about her sister. And so I told her, and that's what I said. And then she's getting herself worked up mad, man, mad, mad. And I was just sitting there. Like, I had to lean over. I'm like, hey, I know this is going to sound stupid, but I actually have some thoughts on this.

I just, I know it's the weirdest thing, but I just had a book come out about this.

I just wrote a book about it.

This is awesome that I'm hearing right now.

And I was like, I can't't and they were like really and then

I found out because I said well because she was asking me how do I forgive somebody why should

and I said well I'm coming out this from a Jesus followers perspective and I also would suggest that you

shouldn't be shocked how long has your sister been acting like this for her entire life? Okay, well, don't be shocked by that anymore. And I think sometimes we get ourselves worked up when we hear ourselves going off again. Right. She said, you're right. And she said, you know what? I've experienced Grace before. She was a believer. Huh. She had just told her off. And the lady across the table said, you know what? God, it's true, because God has been graceful with us. Maybe we should be graceful. Like, exactly. All this at Starbucks. It went real well. I am so proud of you. I really, really am. I mean, it had to be like screaming obvious. And then they were like, you know, what are the odds that we'd be sitting next to a guy that's thought about it before? Like, I was not an expert. I have been thinking about it a lot. I am so proud of you. Thanks. Yeah. Went pretty good. I'm kind of a social guy now. Okay, let's not go too far. Yeah, it's be smooth.

You know, I think it's obvious, but I guess it's not. Whenever you talk about forgiving people, some people want to point out, yeah, I know, we're supposed to forgive, but that doesn't mean we have to put up with abusive relationships. I've seen a lot of people say that. Yeah, right. Mm-hmm. I did. I thought that was obvious. I guess it's not.

No, it doesn't mean you have to continue an abusive relationship.

A lot of times forgiveness is going to mean dealing with the anger that you have after that relationship. And it's between you and God. Are you willing to forego your anger and your self-righteousness because of what God has done for you.

A lot of times it's really between you and God. And that person, you may never see, the person may be dead. Right. You have to forgive. But you have to. You have to. No, it doesn't mean you have to act like nothing ever happened. No, no, no, no. Forgiveness is the exact opposite of that. You're acknowledging that it happened and you're letting it go, consciously letting it go.

And acknowledging it was wrong.

Otherwise, you wouldn't have... happen. No, no, no, no. Forgiveness is the exact opposite of that. You're acknowledging that it happened and you're letting it go, consciously letting it go. And acknowledging it was wrong.

Otherwise, you wouldn't have anything to forgive. Hello there. I know you can't see me right now,

but I am dressed in quite the finery. I have on tails and tuxedo, white tie, and I am seated at a piano where I...

Oh, look at that.

Now, there's a candelabra on the piano and everything, and why am I doing this?

That's a great question.

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