Hello and welcome to today's independent travel podcast with me Simon Calder and it's the first of

April but I am no fool because I have an absolute top guest with me today. I'm slightly starstruck in fact

because this is none other than Bettany Hughes. Yes, her from the telly, Britain's favourite historian.

And it's a marvel to be with you. And the reason we're here is because we are talking about your

impending series starting later this month, Channel 4, which is treasures of. Treasures of what?

So, treasures of six different places.

It's running over six weeks.

We now know it starts on April the 6th.

We've just just heard this.

And it's treasures of the world, is the series,

but I'm going to Bulgaria, Estonia, Azerbaijan, Greece, Turkey,

and, you know, a couple of places in between.

So I'm trying to discover where history is in slightly unexpected places.

So the fact that the Romans get to Azerbaijan, the fact that Roman history is made in Albania.

So that's the plan of this series.

It looks slightly out of your comfort zone.

We associate you with being in the British Museum or exploring ruins in Italy or wherever.

If you're going to Estonia, that's on the Baltic and as far as I know you will correct me,

that Romans didn't get anywhere near, or the Greeks.

Well, the Greeks did.

Yes.

So this is why it's so interesting that there

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