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And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

Well, we've got a great show for your neighbors.

I'm starting to sound like Long John Nebel.

That's what he would say at the beginning of the show.

If you ever heard of Long John Nebel, he was a pioneer talk show hosts from the 1950s, 60s, and part of the 70s.

And his stock and trade included stuff on UFOs and the paranormal.

And he brought on all the people of its time.

So that's where I started with this thing.

Anyway, we've had discussions off and on on the powercast with regard to the possibility of a secret space program.

Is that possible that we're investing billions or trillions of dollars,

sending men and women to the moon, to Mars, elsewhere?

But we don't account for it.

But maybe there's a source of where this money is coming from. And Chris, you posted something

in the powercast forums that discusses something that's nothing unusual, which is military waste,

rampant waste, tens of billions of dollars being wasted on various programs such as new aircraft.

It's like all these big companies who build these things,

not a single one of them competent enough to come in at or under budget.

Do you think this is where all these black projects are being funded, Chris?

Well, I mean, if you look at September 10th, 2001, when Donald Rumsfeld announced the results of an audit that he had done upon becoming Secretary of Defense under George W. Bush, made the incredible announcement that $4.4 trillion was misplaced in the

Pentagon and the best they could figure is $2.2 trillion had vanished. So, I mean, that's a lot of

money right there. So, I mean, you could look at the Clinton administration and before,

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