Hi everyone, it's 4 o'clock in the east. It's one of those days. No time to waste this afternoon.

There's a lot going on, including our top story, Rudy Giuliani and his attorney, Robert Costello,

meeting with special counsel Jack Smith's investigators in the January 6 case that could

be approaching its endgame. Plus, in the classified documents investigation,

previously unreported details on a subpoena for surveillance footage, not from our logo this time,

but from Donald Trump's Bedminster Golf Club. First, those, something exciting to share that's

a little closer to home. Tomorrow on this very program at this very time, President Joe Biden will

join us in what will be his first live sit-down interview since becoming president. We don't

have to tell you there is a ton to ask him about and talk to him about. You won't want to miss it

right here at 4 o'clock tomorrow. But after I pick my job off the floor that I just actually read

that, we'll go back to our top story. Rudy Giuliani, Mr. Four Seasons total landscaping himself,

met with special counsel prosecutors in recent weeks. NBC News confirmed that he did that with his

own political advisor, Ted Goodman, after earlier reporting in the day from CNN. Crucially, Goodman

insists the appearance, which also featured Attorney Robert Costello, was quote, entirely voluntary.

And before we talk about what that might even mean, recall why Giuliani is such a vital witness

in the first place in the aftermath of the 2020 election that Trump lost. Giuliani essentially

becomes Trump's glorified door to door coup salesman, acting on behalf of Trump in a Trump's

direction, traveling state to state, pitching the big lie and persuading skeptical legislatures

to send fake slates of electors, trying to convince them that they had power that they really never had.

Remember this from Georgia in December of that year.

You are the final arbiter of who the electors should be and whether the process is fair or not.

And the other way to look at it, it's your responsibility if a false and fraudulent count

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