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There is, I'll now restart from our audience at home.

So a thumbnail sketch of what I intend to present,

there is a kind of criterionological difference between philosophy and theology.

Criteriology just means like, what do we count as counting?

And sometimes we don't do the work of explaining how they're related

or what the difference between them is,

kind of distinguishing so as to unite.

So I thought that I would spend some time kind of navigating that

gap and in kind of by accident as it were or it's intended by me but by accident in terms of the

subject matter itself. I thought that it could offer us some resources for bridging the

criterionological difference between, you know, the kind of modern sciences and philosophy.

And I want to focus on the notion of testimony.

I think that sometimes we reserve testimony for specific settings or specific context,

but I think that the testimony is shot through all of our experience and our scientific endeavors.

Science there used analogically to cover the different things that we've

been talking about over the course of the past few days. So I thought that I would just focus

by way of introduction on the five ways, specifically on the fourth way, and then I'm going to go

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