Approaches to Food Access: Dylan Alverson and Jason Finder
Food with Mark Bittman
Sweetness and Light
4.8 • 981 Ratings
🗓️ 8 April 2026
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
Dylan Alverson is the owner of Modern Times—now called Post Modern Times—in Minneapolis, a restaurant that stopped charging customers for food during the violent ICE occupation (and that will continue to be free). Jason Finder is the Executive Director of Good Food Works and Salad Days, which offers free grab & go salads to public spaces and high-need constituencies throughout New York City. The two joined Kate and Mark to talk about how they came to be passionate about food access and why what they're doing is working.
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| 1:10.0 | Thank you. Today we're introducing two people I've become acquainted with in the last couple of months, and the four of us, Kate's included, are going to chat about interesting approaches to equitable food access. Many of you know of my involvement with, |
| 1:13.2 | or I guess I could even say, creation of Community Kitchen, our nonprofit restaurant that |
| 1:18.3 | recently finished its three-month pilot here in New York City. And our guests, Dylan Alverson |
| 1:24.9 | and Jason Finder, are taking different tax on getting good food where it's most needed. |
| 1:30.8 | Dylan is the owner of the diner Modern Times, he just renamed it Postmodern Times, in Minneapolis, |
| 1:37.7 | and in January the diner made an announcement. All menu items are now free, unless you're a federal agent, and the restaurant runs on |
| 1:46.5 | donations. |
| 1:48.2 | Jason is the executive director of Good Food Works, a startup nonprofit that right now is pretty |
| 1:54.2 | much giving away salad boxes on the street in Brooklyn, a novel and interesting model. |
| 2:00.5 | So there are four of us, Jason, Dylan, Kate, and me. |
| 2:04.3 | And apologies in advance for some of the audio. |
| 2:06.9 | We did our best, but had some unusual challenges. |
| 2:10.1 | Trust me, the interview is worth it. |
| 2:13.5 | Thanks for joining us. |
| 2:15.2 | And I want to get a little history from each of you. |
| 2:19.3 | We're interested in exploring what creative ways of thinking about food access. |
| 2:25.3 | We've all been engaged in that. |
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