In a sense, Dawkins' book probably should have been called Climbing Mountain Probable.

You know, I mean, it's the mountain that makes it probable to get to the top, but that mountain itself is highly improbable.

ID, The Future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

Welcome to ID The Future. I'm your host, Andrew McDermott.

Today, my in-depth conversation with Dr. William Dembski about his new monograph unpacking

the law of the conservation of information.

And if you don't know much about this concept yet, you're going to want to stick around and get as much of it as you can today.

And I'll point you to how you can read his monograph for free.

Now, for starters, if you don't know Dr. Dembski yet, let me give you a few details.

He's the founding and senior fellow with Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture,

as well as a distinguished fellow with the Institute's Walter Bradley Center for Natural and Artificial Intelligence.

He's a graduate of the University of Illinois at Chicago, where he earned a bachelor's in psychology and a doctorate in philosophy.

He also received a doctorate in philosophy. He also received a

doctorate in mathematics from the University of Chicago in 1988, and a Master of Divinity

degree from Princeton Theological Seminary in 1996. He has held National Science Foundation

graduate and post-doctoral fellowships. Dr. Dembski has published in the peer-reviewed mathematics,

engineering, biology, philosophy, and theology literature. He's the author or editor of more than 25

books, most recently a brand new edition of the design inference, his classic work, updated completely

in a new revised edition, co-authored with Winston Ewart.

Now, in our first episode, we established the foundations of what Dembski calls

nature's missing law, the law of conservation of information. We explored the historical

roots of this concept, going back to thinkers and scientists in the 19th and 20th centuries, who applied

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