Applying for college after the end of affirmative action
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🗓️ 27 December 2023
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Summary
The Supreme Court’s decision to end race-based affirmative action in college admissions sent counselors scrambling and students worrying about their chances. For two seniors, it made them totally rethink their applications – in very different ways.
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When high school senior Demar Goodman found out that the Supreme Court had struck down race-based affirmative action, he immediately called his best friend.
“So,” Demar said. “Safe to say Harvard is out, right?”
Thousands of miles away in Tennessee, another high school senior, Cole Clemmons, was at an international summer program. When he heard the news, the opposite crossed his mind – that the decision may help his chances.
Education reporter Hannah Natanson followed both teens over the following months as they rethought where to apply and reworked their essays.
Today’s show was produced by Sabby Robinson. It was mixed by Rennie Svirnovsky. It was edited by Maggie Penman.
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| 0:00.0 | The final deadline to apply to many colleges for next fall is just a few days away. |
| 0:08.0 | And this year, the application process for high school seniors has been different |
| 0:12.0 | because of a landmark Supreme Court decision that came down over the summer. |
| 0:16.6 | The court ruled to ban race-based affirmative action in college admissions. |
| 0:21.2 | Basically, colleges can no longer consider students race in weighing their applications. |
| 0:26.5 | But the guidance about what that means in practice wasn't straightforward. |
| 0:31.2 | There was some confusing guidance about whether students can still mention their |
| 0:35.4 | race in college essays that immediately sent colleges consulting lawyers to try to figure |
| 0:40.4 | it out, but as the adults are sort of scrambling, the teenagers who are trying |
| 0:45.4 | to apply to college of all different kinds of races are totally re-evaluating where they |
| 0:51.2 | have a shot, where they're willing to apply, where they think they're |
| 0:55.0 | going to automatically get rejected from, if they're going to write about who they are |
| 0:59.6 | in terms of race in their essays, and they are sort of entering this weird crazy |
| 1:05.1 | wonderland where there aren't really guidelines because this is also new. |
| 1:08.6 | That's Education reporter Hannah Mees, who has been following the fallout of the decision |
| 1:15.9 | and what it means for the admissions process. Immediately after affirmative action fell this |
| 1:20.8 | past summer, Hannah reached out to high school seniors. |
| 1:24.2 | She wanted to understand how they were grappling |
| 1:26.4 | with this new reality and how it should or shouldn't change |
| 1:30.0 | where they apply. |
| 1:31.7 | Two students were willing to let her follow them through the admissions process. |
| 1:35.3 | Cole Clemens, a senior in Tennessee, and DeMar Goodman, who lives in Georgia. |
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