Hello and welcome to the Apple Insider Podcast. This is your host Wesley Hillier.

Today our sponsor is Seine Box and I am joined by Mike Wresley, managing editor of Apple Incider, my boss and

former fellow Navy shipmate.

How's it going, Mike?

It goes.

Some of you know me from my two other appearances on the Apple Incider Podcast over the last eight years and some of you have heard me on the space travel and bought podcast

Dilly departed of course, but obviously we're here to talk about Apple Vision Pro.

Yes, so we've had this thing for as we record about six days. I've just

released the early review as we're calling it, more or less a first look, very

in depth as I could get with the hours and hours I've spent with this thing on my face.

But I'm pretty excited about it and I think people on the show might be tired of hearing

me Wax Poetic about the Apple Vision Pro and so we brought you on to give us a little bit of the

other side maybe or maybe you're as ecstatic as I am but

No, I'm not I'm going to be the voice of reason I used it over the summer at a large company to be unnamed forever all time of the it wasn't fantastic. I understand where people are excited. It's the future of

computing. I do not think it's the future of computing anytime soon. In fact, if this is the future

computing it will be after I'm gone. I in my mid 50s I this isn't a 10 year thing this is a longer thing

so

this feels to me right now without going into the text specs or anything like that because we're not really going to talk about that today.

This is a line in the sand because Apple decided that, well, we want to be part of the conversation.

We don't want Meta to control the narrative around this platform in the future.

Yes, I mean, famously, I think it was Greg Joswieck who said he would never use the term Metaverse and Meta like Facebook as we call them, renamed their entire company around the idea of the

Metaverse and more or less kind of failed to really get that to take any traction.

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