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The Daily

Apple’s Bet on China

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Apple built the world’s most valuable business by figuring out how to make China work for Apple. A New York Times investigation has found that the dynamic has now changed. China has figured out how to make Apple work for China. Guest: Jack Nicas, who covers technology from San Francisco for The New York Times. He is one of the reporters behind the investigation into Apple’s compromises in China.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From New York Times, I'm Michael Bavaro. This is Daily.

0:10.0

Today, Apple built the world's most valuable business

0:15.0

by figuring out how to make China work for Apple.

0:19.0

But, a Times investigation has found that that dynamic has now changed

0:25.0

and that China has figured out how to make Apple work for China.

0:31.0

Sabrina Tavernese spoke with one of the reporters

0:34.0

behind that investigation, Jack Niggas.

0:43.0

It's Monday, June 14.

0:46.0

The Times

0:51.0

Jack, tell me how you got into this story about Apple's relationship with China.

0:56.0

Sure. So, I started covering Apple for the Times in early 2018

1:01.0

when Apple was really starting to push its stance on privacy.

1:05.0

It was becoming a main selling point for Apple.

1:08.0

This is when Facebook was facing a lot of scandal

1:11.0

about how it was handling user data and Apple saw that as an opportunity

1:14.0

to differentiate itself from its rivals.

1:18.0

Privacy to us is a human right.

1:22.0

We even see Tim Cook, you know, Apple CEO in interview saying

1:27.0

privacy is a fundamental human right.

1:30.0

You know, this is like freedom of speech and freedom of the press

1:33.0

and privacy is right up there for us.

1:37.0

Apple was making its pitch to consumers that they can trust their data with Apple.

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