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Heilman, is just like that one, only it's bigger and it's better dropping new

episodes not once a week, like the old one, but twice a week every Tuesday and Friday, featuring deep, rich,

candid, and yes, in politic conversations with the people who shape our culture in

politics, entertainment, business, tech, sports, and media, and the A-list journalists and

authors who chronicle their lives and exploits, two of whom are on the

podcast today. The first is Kara Swisher, the most influential technology

journalist of the digital age, formerly of the Wall Street Journal,

Recode, and the New York Times, now editor at large at New York

magazine, host of the podcast, On with Kara Swisher,

and co-host of the pivot podcast with Scott Galloway

also author of the recent best-selling memoir Burnbook a tech love story the second

hack who's on the show and I say that lovingly is Joe Klein

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