Hello and welcome to The CultCats, the best hour-long Apple conversation. You're going to hear it all week long. I'm your host, Leander Caney, joining me today. We have Dee Griffin Jones. Hello, Griffin. Good evening. How are you? I'm all right, thank you. Not too bad. And also, Lewis. Hello, Lewis. Hello.

How's it going on? Pretty good. I like, have you got an ugly Christmas sweater on there? Yes, I do. Very appropriate. And I've got an ugly Christmas black button-down shirt. Very Christmassy, yeah. That's not pretty festive. It's like a black shirt. Mm-hmm. All right, so this is our year end episode, end of year episode, and we're going

to be reviewing the biggest news stories, rumors, leaks, and madness of 2025.

We're going to happen everything that happened during the year in extreme detail.

But we're going to be adding some nuance.

So, buckle in. This is going to be adding some nuance. So buckle in.

This is going to be a great show.

This is actually the last show of the cult cast.

This is going to be the last episode.

Of the cult cast specifically.

We're moving to a new show called the Cult of Mac podcast.

And we're doing this mostly because we want to bring

all the cult of Mac content under the same umbrella. So this new show is going to be listed

in Apple Podcast, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Podcast Addict and wherever you get your podcasts everywhere.

So search for Cult of Mac in your podcast app or click the link at the top of the show notes.

We'll still release his new episodes every Thursday, both as an audio podcast and as video

on the Cult of Mac YouTube channel. We'll release the next new episodes in the

cult cast feed as well, but in the future we're going to migrate to

the new Cult of Mac feeds. So if you want to continue

listening to this amazing show, please sign

up in the new feed. And like I said, it's going to be in, what was it? Are you skeptical there,

Louis? Slightly flat affect there. Come on, if you want to keep listening to this amazing show,

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