Welcome to the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of video podcasts.

I'm your friend David Pierce, and I am sitting here with the Verges Apple products ranker.

If you haven't tried this yet, theverge.com slash Apple 50.

It gives you a whole system for ranking the 50 best products Apple has ever made.

And boy, is it complicated.

A lot of them are very easy. A lot of times you end up with two sort of inconsequential things that it's hard to figure out how to put them

in order. And then you run into, like, is the original Macintosh one of the most influential

computers ever? It started the GUI. It was a big reason the mouse became really popular.

More important than

the iMac G3, the first thing that Steve Jobs made when he came back, that effectively in so

many ways saved Apple. Which of those is a better product? I don't know. I have sat here for hours

trying to split hairs on decisions like this, and it is slowly making me lose my mind. But this is

what we're doing here. It's the 50th anniversary of Apple this week. Go do the ranker. We're going to come

back on Friday's show, and Nila and I are going to both unveil our own rankings and debate whether

all of you got it right. Right now, there is some true chaos happening,

and some people are very angry about it. And I just want you to know that if you, like Neely and

like John Gruber, think that the Apple extended keyboard two deserves more shine, it's up to you

to go in and fix it. Anyway, we're going to talk about Apple on this show today, but from kind of a

different perspective. Basically, we're going to do two things. Jason Snell, our friend from Six

Colors and the Upgrade Podcast and Macworld, is going to come on the show and give us kind of a state

of Apple. Company is 50 years old. He has been aware of and covering this company for as long

as anybody, and he's just going to try to figure out where is Apple right now compared to its history. It's a complicated question in a bunch of ways. We're going to dig into it. Then Anil Dash is going to come on the show. He's another person who has been paying attention to Apple and been in this space for a very long time, and he's going to talk to us about some stuff he's been writing recently about podcasts. And specifically, the ways in which he thinks video podcasts have the potential to change podcasts forever. Then we have a hotline question about the Apple Watch. It's a very appellee day. It's a very apply week. We got a lot of stuff coming. Go to the site for all of our Apple 50 coverage.

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