Appetite for corruption – How Trump is letting kleptocrats destroy the world

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

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🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Trump has opened the doors to kleptocrats the world over as he launches a new era of corruption the likes of which we’ve never seen. Oliver Bullough, writer of the Coda Story newsletter as well as the author of Butler to the World: How Britain Became the Servant of Tycoons, Tax Dodgers, Kleptocrats and Criminals, and Moneyland, has long been following the corrupt ways money moves around the globe. He joins Gavin Esler to discuss how this is happening, what guardrails there are and what hope there might be of this trajectory being reversed. • Support us on Patreon to keep This Is Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this. Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Produced by Robin Leeburn and Tom Taylor. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer: Martin Bojtos. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:52.6	There has never been a better time to be a criminal, whether you are a fraudster, a cartel boss,
0:58.6	a corrupt politician or a kleptocrat. Your options to move and hide ill-gotten money are more secure
1:04.4	and more impenetrable than they have ever been. That's a quote looking ahead to a new book
1:10.2	from our guest today, the investigative
1:11.9	journalist Oliver Bullock. Oliver is well known for his writing on corruption and money laundering
1:16.6	in Britain and worldwide. His new book is scheduled for publication early next year and is called
1:21.2	Everybody Loves Our Dollars, How Money Laundering Won. It argues that the Trump presidency represents
1:27.7	a bonanza for tax dodgers and the super rich.
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