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The Times Tech Podcast

Apeiron’s Christian Angermayer: "Magic mushrooms' long, strange trip"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2019

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Christian Angermayer, entrepreneur and investor, to talk about magic mushrooms (4:00), why he is investing now (6:55), the lack of new drugs for mental illness (9:50), why it’s worse in the West (12:00), his first “trip” (17:10), the psilocybin company he has backed with Peter Thiel (21:55), creating a new body of clinical research (25:45), growing up in a village in Germany (27:00), starting a biotech at age 21 (28:50), selling it (30:25), investing in Hollywood (31:30), living in London (35:30), being a micro-dosing sceptic (38:30), and why backing films requires a different approach (39:35).

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0:00.0

Yo, technology.

0:03.0

What is it all about?

0:04.4

It's the single most meaningful experience in my entire life.

0:10.3

Really?

0:11.2

Yes.

0:12.0

We ask people like six months later, professionally, like one of the points is always how would you rank it?

0:19.2

And more than two thirds, rank it among the five most meaningful things in their life

0:25.6

compared with things like birth of your child.

0:33.6

Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley coming to you live on location this week at the Milken Global Conference in Beverly Hills, California.

0:46.2

If you have never been to the Milken Conference, it's kind of like the summer session of Davos.

0:53.4

So basically, it's all the great and the good are here at the Beverly Hilton Hotel

0:59.8

underneath the palm trees, although it's a bit overcast this week.

1:04.7

And they're all clawing past each other to sit in on sessions and talk about basically

1:08.4

all the problems that they have created and are now trying to

1:11.8

solve everything from AI and climate change to the 2020 election and Brexit and everything in

1:16.8

between they're all here so everybody from the White House chief of staff to the CEO of

1:24.4

SoftBank to the edge of course ifank, to The Edge.

1:28.4

Of course, if any one of these events happens,

1:31.4

somebody from YouTube has to show up.

1:34.0

There's a whole smattering of Hollywood types.

1:35.7

I even saw Chris Tucker, Smokey, from the film Friday,

1:39.3

which, if you haven't seen it,

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