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American Prestige

AP x NonZero - Venezuela, China, and Trump’s Incoherence

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, News, Politics

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Subscribe for the full version! The greatest recurring crossover in the biz, between AP and ⁠NonZero Newsletter⁠, returns. Get your discounted membership to NonZero now! Part One Video 0:00 The incoherence of Trump's foreign policy7:16 The paucity of debate around Chinese chip restrictions19:13 Danny: Is this the stupidest foreign policy establishment ever? 25:27 Should AGI worry us?  34:40 Bob’s Overtime bait Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to American Prestige.

0:02.7

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0:08.3

Find the link in our show notes.

0:31.2

Oh, look, it's Derek Davison and Danny Besner, the American Prestige podcast, and I'm Robert Wright in the Non Zero podcast, and this can mean only one thing.

0:39.7

This is one of the occasional collaborations between communist peacemicks and neoliberal it means the continued breakdown of western civilization is what it means yeah yeah

0:44.9

hello bob how you guys you would describe yourself as a neoliberal well no but i don't think

0:50.2

you guys probably wouldn't describe yourself as communist would you would you i you? I mean, there's, I don't know the technical terminology. No, probably not. No, probably. I mean, describing oneself as a communist is like describing oneself as an Aryan Christian. It doesn't really exist anymore, so it's just in your mind. I would say, Derek, I would say what, socialist, social, probably more social Democrats Democrats than a Democratic socialist, even though there's not that much of a difference.

1:14.4

Yeah, I mean, the distinction is lost on me, so I'll just, I'll go with whatever you say.

1:20.4

Yeah, so social Democrats here.

1:23.0

But we are united in the mission of restraint.

1:25.5

We are restrains.

1:26.5

Do you accept that level as far as your

1:28.1

foreign policy? Yeah, yeah, for sure. As far as it goes. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Okay. So look, I bring good news to you guys.

1:38.3

Yesterday, Trump did not use our tax dollars to bomb a boat in the Caribbean that may or may not have drugs and then

1:46.1

go back and bomb again to make sure any survivors are dead. Instead, he used our tax dollars

1:51.8

to seize a Venezuelan oil tanker, you know, also almost certainly illegal, almost certainly a violation of international law.

2:03.4

And I would add that, the ostensible purpose of it is to enforce unilateral sanctions

2:10.0

that have the effect of raising the price we pay for gasoline, but no one was killed.

2:15.3

And I think that's an improvement.

2:16.5

I think we may be moving toward a kinder and gentler version of the Trump corollary to the Monroe Doctrine, which I think is an actual phrase, right?

2:26.5

In the national security strategy document that got Europe so riled this week, I think the Trump Corollary.

2:32.2

I don't know if it's in the document, but they're definitely calling at that.

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