Women don't just want their families to do more. They want to be seen. Women don't want to just do less.

They want to be less responsible for everything. It's more about being seen and valued as a woman than it just being about who is doing what.

Hi, this is Monica Packer and you're listening to About Progress, where we are about progress made practical.

Today I'm going to tackle one of the toughest topics out there.

And it is one that I've had to do with every coaching client I've

ever worked with at some point and to some degree. It's about the disparity of labor that women

experience in their homes. I'm going to define that for you, but first I want to start with a

story that I think really illustrates what this looks and feels like even in the best of homes.

On our 14th winning anniversary a few years ago, we were about to go to dinner.

And I decided for some reason that that was the perfect time for Brad and I to move through something called the Fair Play deck.

If you've read the book Fair Play by Eve Rothsky, she's been on the show in the past one of my favorite episodes ever, then you know how Eve Rothsky talks about labor in the home.

And that labor in the home, all caretaking tasks from stocking toilet paper to feeding people to even being the tooth fairy should follow the same kind of practices they have in the business world and with business organizations because the home is the most important organization on the earth.

According to Eversky and I would agree with her. And she talks about how for each task, like they do in the

business world, for each task at home, there should be CPE meaning conception, planning, and

execution of a task. And as you're trying to figure out in your household

who does what, that should involve the full CPE, meaning I conceive of a task. I know it needs to

happen. I plan it out, meaning what has to happen in order for that task to be checked off.

And then I execute it, meaning I do it.

And as part of that, she has this fair play deck of cards that go through 100 tasks that are

typical to most homes. And as a couple, to help aid in these discussions on who is doing what

and to kind of gamify it and to also help it become

really visible on who is doing what. You move through these cards and these tasks and you divide

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