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🗓️ 25 March 2016

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

A former ISIS hostage warns that calling the Brussels attack an act of terror plays into the terrorists' game plan. Plus: an unprecedented crackdown on press freedom in Turkey.

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0:00.0

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone. And I'm Bob Garfield.

0:09.8

This week, you didn't have to be in Belgium to feel the reverberation of bombs in Brussels.

0:16.0

British Prime Minister David Cameron. These were attacks in Belgium. They could just as well be attacks in Britain or in France

0:21.8

or Germany or elsewhere in Europe and we need to stand together. And French Prime Minister Manuel

0:27.2

Valtz said Europe's very survival is at stake. It's another war because terrorism, this terrorism,

0:35.0

Islamic State, wants to destroy us. It wants to destroy men and women.

0:39.3

We've seen it. Writing in The Guardian this week, French journalist Nicholas Hennon criticized world leaders for depicting the challenge posed by ISIS this way.

0:49.3

Quote, if we adopt a militaristic warlike vocabulary, there'll be no way back from that.

0:55.8

We will only strengthen our enemies, he wrote.

0:59.4

Hannan should know, in 2013, while reporting in Syria, he was kidnapped and held hostage by ISIS for nearly a year.

1:07.3

He shared a cell with James Foley, Stephen Sotloff, Peter Kasig, and more than a dozen other

1:13.5

Western captives. Mohamed Mwazi, better known as Jihadi John, an oft-videoed executioner, was one of

1:21.5

his jailers. After Henan's release, filled with what he called accidental knowledge of jihadism, he wrote

1:28.9

Jihad Academy.

1:31.0

In the book, he punctures Western conventional wisdom about ISIS and the Syrian conflict

1:36.0

and lays bare what he sees as our deadly misperceptions of ISIS.

1:42.5

Nicholas, welcome to On the Media. Thank you.

1:45.0

So, you essentially make the argument that the West, and particularly the Western media,

1:50.9

buy into the myths that ISIS is selling, right?

1:54.7

Let's go through some of them.

1:56.8

A big one has to do with the relationship between the Syrian regime and ISIS.

2:01.6

That the government...

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