“Any lever of power”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

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🗓️ 10 July 2023

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses revelations from former Chief of Staff John Kelly on the lengths the ex-president would go to in order to target political enemies, updates on Special Counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into his handling of classified documents as aide Walt Nauta enters his not guilty plea, the next legal obstacle for Fox News in the continued fallout over their 2020 election lies, the politicization of military appointments by MAGA Republicans, President Biden’s trip to Europe after he said Ukraine is not ready for NATO membership but defended sending them controversial cluster munitions, and more. Joined by: Mike Schmidt, Claire McCaskill, Andrew Weissmann, Nick Confessore, Amy McGrath, Ben Rhodes, Brian Fallon, Ben Rhodes, and Igor Novikov.

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0:00.0	Hi there, everyone. It's Forequark and the East. It is practically a statement of fact
0:07.9	at this point that when it comes to Donald Trump, he tries to do exactly whatever it is
0:13.3	he says he will do, that he will take any lever of power at his disposal to turn a threat
0:19.1	or a pledge made on Twitter or on the stump into action. The latest example of this new
0:25.0	evidence showing that Donald Trump, while he was president, pushed to get the IRS to investigate
0:30.4	FBI officials Pete Strachan-Lisa Page, who were repeatedly and notoriously by the end,
0:37.0	targets of Donald Trump's wrath. From the New York Times, New Reporting on this brand-new
0:41.8	evidence, quote, John Kelly, who served as former President Trump's second White House
0:46.0	Chief of Staff, said in a sworn statement that Trump had discussed having the IRS and other
0:51.8	federal agencies investigate two FBI officials involved in the investigation into his campaign's
0:57.9	ties to Russia. Quote, President Trump questioned whether investigations by the Internal Revenue
1:03.5	Service or other federal agencies should be undertaken into Mr. Strachan-Lisa and or
1:08.5	Ms. Page, Mr. Kelly said in the statement, quote, I do not know of President Trump ordering
1:13.8	such an investigation. It appeared, however, that he wanted to see Mr. Strachan-Lisa Page
1:18.8	investigated. Mr. Kelly's assertions were disclosed on Thursday in a statement that was filed
1:24.4	in connection with lawsuits, lawsuits that we've covered on this program, brought by Pete
1:29.3	Strach, who was the lead agent in the FBI's Russian investigation and Lisa Page, a former
1:34.6	lawyer at the FBI, against the Justice Department for violating their privacy rights. That was
1:40.3	when the Trump administration made public text messages between them. Like so much of what
1:45.5	we now know about the Trump presidency, this revelation was found where do you think? In
1:52.1	notes taken by one of his own staffers, likely sitting in front of the resolute desk listening
1:57.2	to him rant. The Times reports this, quote, Mr. Kelly said that his recollection of Trump's
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