Here we go. My name's Todd. This is Kathy. Welcome back to another episode of Zen Parenting Radio. This is podcast number 676. Why listen to Zen Parenting Radio? Because you'll feel outstanding. It's out. And I always remember our motto, which is the best predictor of a child's well-being, is a parent's self-understanding.

On today's show, just a bunch of random stuff, I think.

Not really.

Oh, not random.

Well, I wanted to, like, kind of tie it all together because of the story you were telling me this morning.

I wanted to talk about the difference between relieving anxiety and healing anxiety.

And I'm using those words very lightly because I don't really like the word heal because it

makes it sound like it's something that you solve and is gone. I think healing means just to me,

I'm using it in like a deeper dive into something rather than relieving. I already have a hot take based on what you're calling this.

Okay, because I was thinking about the story you were telling me this morning and I thought

it's kind of an anxiety-based thing.

And I also want to discuss, which I think will be easy for us to do the wisdom of it.

I think that we have pathologized anxiety to such an

extent where we're terrified of the feeling and we're trying to get rid of the feeling. We're trying

to alleviate it all the time versus like recognizing what it's trying to tell us. It's there for a

reason. It is. One quick thing is if you are listening to this podcast and you enjoy it, one thing that I like to ask is tell a friend that helps us kind of reach more people. And I also want to talk about Team Zen. I just quickly, before we pressed record on this podcast, came up with 10 reasons why somebody might want to consider

joining the team.

Well, can I start with what I was thinking about?

So Todd and I, just so everybody knows, Todd and I are always trying to figure out a way to

market Team Zen.

I think we've been doing it like five or six years.

And we're like, how do we explain what we're doing?

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