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Disordered: Anxiety Help

"Anxiety Recovery OCD?" (Episode 127)

Disordered: Anxiety Help

Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.9665 Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Can your focus on getting better actually make things worse? In this episode, we explore what happens when the recovery process itself becomes an obsession - coining the term "Recovery OCD" to describe the fixation many people develop around their anxiety recovery journey.

We dig into the counterintuitive reality that constantly checking "Am I recovered yet?" or "Am I doing this right?" can actually signal to your brain that anxiety is still something urgent and important to monitor. When recovery becomes the thing you're obsessing about, complete with checking behaviors, rumination, and compulsive information-seeking, you may have fallen into this particular trap.

What we cover:

  • The obsessive-compulsive patterns that can emerge around recovery
  • Why asking "Am I recovered?" might mean you've answered your own question
  • How metrics and comparisons can feed the recovery obsession
  • The difference between recovery as a state versus recovery as function
  • Why uncertainty tolerance is the real skill being developed
  • Practical ways to recognize when you've become obsessed with recovery itself

Key insights:

  • Recovery isn't about reaching a perfect state - it's about building distress tolerance skills
  • The more you fixate on recovery, the more you're teaching your brain that anxiety matters
  • Real progress often looks boring and unmeasurable
  • Sometimes the question "Am I recovered?" isn't the right question to ask

We also share inspiring "Did It Anyway" stories from listeners who demonstrate what it really looks like to move forward while uncertain, anxious, and imperfect - including someone who performed on stage despite a massive adrenaline flood and another who went to a Pokemon card convention while experiencing depersonalization.

This episode challenges common assumptions about what recovery should look and feel like, offering a more realistic and sustainable approach to anxiety recovery that doesn't require constant self-monitoring or perfect emotional states.

The content in this episode aligns with evidence-based, third-wave therapeutic approaches including Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and mindfulness-based treatments for anxiety disorders.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

But it's a collection of things a person feels really strongly that they must do to bring down

0:07.4

the discomfort caused by this thing they're fixated on. Sometimes that's, am I recovering correctly

0:12.5

today? Am I doing willful tolerance, right? I must check if I'm doing willful tolerance, right?

0:17.5

Fixation on perfect recovery would say, oh, that was a disaster because I panicked about as I was a, why did that happen? I should have known. I thought I was better than that. I thought it was further along than that. What made me thinks I could do? Am I recovered? Am I 90% recovered? Am I healed? And then there's doubt. Like, does this even count? Like, the progress I've already made, does it, is it even real?

0:37.6

Does it even count? But how do I know I'm going to get better? I don't believe it. I'm not,

0:40.9

this, how can this work? I've lost my, I don't think this works. I know. Do it anyway. And let

0:45.1

the practice and the experiences change your belief in your philosophy and the back end.

0:53.7

Welcome to Disordered. This is episode 127 entitled Recovery OCD. This is the episode where we

0:59.2

coin a new term that might or might not exist, but too bad. We're doing it anyway. I am Drew

1:04.2

Insolada, one of the co-hosts of Disordered. I'm a therapist practicing in New York in the area

1:09.4

of anxiety and anxiety disorders, former suffer of the things

1:12.1

we talked about on disorder, a three-time author on this, social media guy, guy that spends too much

1:17.7

money on microphones. And yeah, one of my favorite hours of the day when I get to record with.

1:23.0

You get to record with me. I'm Joshua Fletcher, also known as anxiety.

1:30.1

Josh, also a therapist, this side of the pond,

1:33.9

write about it, prance about it, you get the drill.

1:35.6

Recovery OCD.

1:36.3

Yeah.

1:39.6

Yeah, we are coining our own terms.

1:45.8

This was my idea, so, you know, if anyone comes at us, you can throw me in front of people.

1:51.5

We've done a similar episode in the past about, you know, like obsessed with recovery and stuff like that.

2:03.8

But the more I do this job, the more I actually think OCD, which can latch onto pretty much anything in a world full of information, misinformation,

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