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Disordered: Anxiety Help

Anxiety Recovery - Learning To Believe In Yourself Again (Episode 131)

Disordered: Anxiety Help

Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.9665 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

When anxiety and its relentless inner critic take hold, one of the most profound losses is the belief and trust in your own capability. In this episode, Drew and Josh explore how to rebuild self-trust after anxiety disorders erode your confidence in handling life's challenges.

The conversation centers on stories from listeners who confronted their worst-case scenarios—from emergency medical situations while struggling with agoraphobia and panic disorder, to managing health anxiety during actual illness, to facing feared social situations despite OCD. Each story illustrates a crucial truth: the anticipation is almost always worse than the actual experience, and we're far more capable than anxiety tells us we are.

The guys discuss why simply deciding to believe in yourself doesn't work, and what actually does: the unglamorous, minute-by-minute work of doing the scary things anyway. They examine how anxiety functions like a conspiracy theory about yourself, predicting catastrophic outcomes that rarely materialize. The hosts also explore how well-meaning but misguided advice to avoid difficult situations or regulate away uncomfortable feelings can actually undermine self-belief rather than restore it.

This episode emphasizes that rebuilding confidence isn't about making anxiety disappear—it's about discovering through lived experience that you can handle difficult emotions, uncomfortable sensations, and challenging situations. The path back to self-belief requires compassion, patience, and a willingness to challenge the loud but ultimately unreliable predictions of fear and doubt.

Grounded in acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT) and mindfulness-based approaches, this conversation offers a realistic, evidence-based perspective on recovery that honors both the difficulty of the journey and the resilience we all possess.

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0:00.0

Hey Josh, hi Drew. I'm Kai. I'm from Scotland and you're more than welcome to use my name.

0:08.1

I unfortunately ended up with appendicitis over the weekend. Being agoraphobic and suffering from parental order, that was challenging to say.

0:17.9

I ended up having to go down to the doctors. They said I needed to go to the hospital. So did what I had to do. Focused on my breathing and I went down to the hospital. I've been in the hospital for two days now. Had to get emergency surgery. Getting my appendix out. I've got a fear of medication. All of that, absolutely terrifying. Yet here I am. I've not even had one panic attack. I've had shivers. I've been

0:38.5

shaken, but I've been fine. And I think we need to give ourselves credit sometimes. All of us

0:44.4

can handle so much more than we give ourselves credit for. Push that a little bit harder. Believe

0:48.8

in yourself. Welcome to Disordered. This is episode 131 entitled Believing in Yourself or Believe in

0:58.9

Yourself. I am Drew Lin-Salada. I am a therapist practicing in the area of anxiety and anxiety disorders

1:03.7

in New York, in the US of A, former sufferer of the very things we talk about here on Disordered,

1:08.9

a author on this topic, social media guy,

1:11.9

psychoeducator, advocate, and yeah, one half of this team

1:15.3

that's gonna talk about how we can learn

1:16.9

to believe in ourselves when anxiety time takes that away.

1:20.1

And with me as always, behind the mic in the UK is.

1:23.5

I'm Joshua Fletcher, also known as Anxiety Josh.

1:26.5

I'm a psychotherapist and author based in Manchester in the UK,

1:31.3

a previous sufferer of panic disorder, OCD,

1:35.3

GAD, health anxiety, social anxiety, blah, yada, yada, yada, yada.

1:39.3

And I commit my working life to talking about a very important subject in a world full of misinformation and confusing stuff.

1:47.9

And it's a privilege to do that every week.

1:50.2

Welcome back, dude.

1:51.5

Got to have you.

1:53.1

Yes, really good.

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