Anxiety Recovery and Metacognitive Therapy (Episode 71)
Disordered: Anxiety Help
Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata
4.9 • 665 Ratings
🗓️ 19 July 2024
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
An anxious state can be at least partially fueled by the act of metacognition. That's thinking and feeling ... about thinking and feeling. When meta-beliefs tell us that thinking, rumination, worry, and mental problem solving is a good way to fix our internal experiences (like big emotions, scary thoughts, or anxiety), things can go off the rails.
What seems like a good idea - thinking to fix how you feel - suddenly feels like a bad idea after you can't accomplish your goal and wonder why you can't stop engaging in overthinking, worry, and rumination.
This week Josh and Drew are joined by Rhiannon Wilcox, a qualified UK therapist that's been trained and certified in Metacognitive Therapy, a treatment that's been studied and validated when used to address chronic and disordered anxiety problems.
Come learn more about thinking and feeling about thinking and feeling, and why those thinking habits might be leading you astray, even as they promise to lead you to recovery.
To find Rhiannon Wilcox online:
https://instagram.com/rhiannonwilcoxtherapy
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Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can't stop or control? Check out Worry and Rumination Explained, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolveable problems.
https://bit.ly/worryrumination
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| 0:00.0 | You've got your thoughts, your thinking, your cognition. Metacognition is your thinking about thinking. |
| 0:07.0 | You get the thoughts or like a trail of thinking and it's the thought that comes after that. |
| 0:13.0 | Why can't I stop thinking about this? Why am I worrying about that? |
| 0:17.0 | Why does this feel so important? It must be important. There are some examples of |
| 0:21.4 | metacognition, our thinking about our thinking. Think whatever you want, but what meaning |
| 0:26.2 | have you given to that thinking or, you know, why is it an issue that you're thinking that? |
| 0:30.3 | Why is it an issue that you're thinking about your thinking? What does it seem will happen if you |
| 0:34.5 | continue to do that? Which thinking processes are being given attention, |
| 0:38.8 | are being given importance, especially people who are really good at problem solving. |
| 0:43.7 | You know, well, that's the skill that's helped you in so many areas of your life. So why not, |
| 0:47.9 | not, why not with anxiety? |
| 0:53.0 | Welcome to Disorder. This is episode 71 of the podcast. We are talking today about |
| 0:57.4 | metacognitive therapy. I am Drew Lin Salata, one of the co-hosts of Disordered. I am a therapist |
| 1:02.2 | in training, specializing in anxiety and anxiety disorders in the U.S., a three-time author on the subject |
| 1:07.9 | of anxiety disorders, a former suffer for many years |
| 1:11.0 | of my life, a social media dude, an advocate, and all that good stuff. And with me, as always, |
| 1:14.9 | is my co-host. Hi, everyone. I'm Joshua Fletcher, also known as Anxiety Josh, social media. I'm a |
| 1:22.1 | psychotherapist who specializes working with anxiety, anxiety disorders. Enjoy being the co-host of this podcast and author of the book and how does that make you feel. |
| 1:34.3 | And I've invited a guest on today's show, someone who I trained with, the University of Solford. |
| 1:42.3 | I'm very pleased to announce our guest, |
| 1:45.3 | Rianan Wilcox. |
| 1:46.3 | How you doing, Rihanna? |
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