Jay, you know what my favorite type of restaurant is?

Restaurants that totally think out of the box, like I love having breakfast at dinner time

for instance.

And I've always loved this.

And so it was great reading Jeremy Falls book, Falling Upwards.

He's a restaurant guy, a nightclub guy, a bar guy, but also just started a record label

as work with Jay-Z, Quincy Jones, CNN, been involved in the NFT space.

But his first restaurant that he started in LA was a breakfast at dinner time restaurant

that also was a bar slash nightclub slash whatever.

And then he's expanded his creativity in all these different directions, which is inspirational.

But this book that he just wrote, Falling Upwards, is all about him dealing with anxiety

at the same time, this anxiety disorder, something that I can strongly relate to.

Over the decades of my own career and just really refreshing talking to him both about

creativity, about food, about restaurants, about anxiety and how you deal with that.

So here he is, Jeremy Fall, author of Falling Upwards and also the creator of so many restaurants

and other creative ideas.

This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Altiger Show.

Yeah, really enjoyed Falling Upwards, really good.

Thank you, that's right, kind of.

I always scheduled these things to finish right before the podcast starts and I was just

really enjoying it.

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