Anxiety and Not Feeling The "Right" Emotions (Episode 138)
Disordered: Anxiety Help
Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata
4.9 • 665 Ratings
🗓️ 26 December 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
When you're at your child's birthday party, your wedding day, or on a much-anticipated vacation, do you find yourself feeling anxious instead of joyful—and then getting frustrated with yourself for "not feeling the right way"? In this episode, Drew and Josh explore one of the most common traps in anxiety recovery: judging yourself for having the "wrong" emotions.
You'll hear about how people struggling with panic disorder, agoraphobia, OCD, and other anxiety challenges often add a second layer of suffering by criticizing themselves for not feeling grateful, happy, or calm in moments when they think they "should" be. Josh and Drew discuss how this pattern shows up during holidays, special events, and everyday situations, and why trying to control or optimize your emotions typically backfires.
The conversation covers:
- Why "all feelings are welcome" is more than just a nice phrase—it's a practical recovery principle
- How fighting against the emotions you're experiencing makes it less likely you'll move through them naturally
- The difference between desensitized and sensitized responses to anxiety
- Why your brain is a prediction engine, not a reaction machine, and what that says about emotions
- How willful tolerance applies even before anxiety shows up
- Why comparing yourself to others around you ("they're all relaxed and I'm not") keeps you stuck
You'll also hear inspiring "Did It Anyway" stories from listeners who pushed forward despite uncomfortable feelings, including someone who hadn't left their house in days but went to a holiday event anyway, and a new mother who faced her lifelong fear during an emergency C-section.
This episode may be particularly helpful if you're heading into holiday gatherings, family events, or any situation where you're putting pressure on yourself to feel a certain way. The guys remind us that recovery isn't measured by the absence of symptoms—it's measured by your willingness to be with them.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | A lot of people who in the sensitized state will then berate themselves, get frustrated when they don't feel like they, air quotes, should be feeling. |
| 0:14.1 | When we are fighting the emotion that we are experiencing in the moment, we make it much less likely that we will move on to other emotions organically. |
| 0:23.9 | We see people who are, you know, having these wins or like little victories did it anyways. |
| 0:28.7 | They're facing the challenges. |
| 0:30.1 | They're moving through them. |
| 0:30.7 | They're navigating. |
| 0:31.5 | But then they will declare failure because of how they felt while they did it. |
| 0:35.3 | Why am I not having the appropriate emotion? |
| 0:38.0 | And then people with OCD is even worse. |
| 0:40.3 | So you've got like relationship OCD. |
| 0:42.5 | Why am I not feeling the feeling I should be having right now? |
| 0:46.5 | How good am I allowing all emotions? |
| 0:53.1 | Welcome to Disorder. This is episode 138 entitled How I Should Be Feeling. |
| 1:00.6 | My name's Joshua Fletcher, also known as Anxiety Josh, and I'm a psychotherapist based in Manchester in the UK. |
| 1:07.0 | Knows all things anxiety and anxiety disorders. |
| 1:09.9 | Probably been through most of it myself, |
| 1:12.3 | and I'm planned professional and personal experience to help others going through the same. |
| 1:17.9 | And I'm joined by my wonderful esteemed co-host and friend. |
| 1:22.0 | Yes, from all the way across the Atlantic Ocean in New York, I am Drew Lin Salada, |
| 1:26.2 | I'm also a therapist that specializes in anxiety and anxiety disorders and kind of live through all the stuff too. |
| 1:32.7 | If you've listened before, you know the intros, author, psychoeducator. |
| 1:36.2 | The other half of disorder, today we're going to talk about how I'm supposed to feel, but I want to feel a different way. |
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