Anxiety and "Incomplete" Recovery (Episode 104)
Disordered: Anxiety Help
Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata
4.9 • 665 Ratings
🗓️ 21 March 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
Do you feel like you've "mostly" overcome your chronic or disordered anxiety issues but there are still challenges that linger? Maybe you've felt fully recovered once before, or even several times before, but you keep finding yourself back in the thick of it or unable to overcome a few specific challenges.
If this is you, then tune in as Josh and Drew talk about the concept of "incomplete" anxiety disorder recovery.
- We're looking at the red zone concept - that set of triggers or circumstances that you may still deem unapproachable or too triggering to fully face.
- We'll look at the very definition of what recovery means and why sometimes that word itself can be problematic.
- There's some discussion of how earlier recovery can sometimes accidentally hinge on learning to do things without being triggered rather than working through triggered states.
And as usual, there's a healthy dose of understanding and a few laughs along the way!
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| 0:00.0 | I have been an anxiety sufferer for 34 years. |
| 0:08.5 | I had the Clear Week's books and recovered to a really good place, but not completely. |
| 0:17.2 | And then in my 40s, I moved through to, with some help of other resources, to another |
| 0:25.9 | place in my recovery where I can travel, I can drive short distances, be home alone. |
| 0:33.6 | Do most things and it doesn't really affect my life, but the one thing that has stuck is not |
| 0:38.4 | driving long distances alone. Do you think that limit of time that has meant that recovery |
| 0:45.5 | isn't possible, complete recovery isn't possible for me? |
| 0:52.6 | Welcome to Disordid. This is episode 104 entitled Incomplete Recovery or Incomplete Recovery. |
| 1:02.0 | My name is Joshua Fletcher, also known as Anxiety Josh, and I'm a psychotherapist who supports Newcastle United. Over the weekend, Newcastle won their first silverware in 70 years, thanks to a goal from Dan Byrne and followed up by Alexander Ezek. I have a slight headache today, but I'm going to do it anyway. And I'm joined by my esteemed co-host. All the way from New York, not in Newcastle or not in the UK, but still happy for Josh anyway, because you team one. I'm Drew Linzalata, the other dude behind the mic here at Disordered. I'm a therapist that practices in the specialty of anxiety disorders, a former sufferer, these very same problems for many, many years, a three-time author, psychoeducator, advocate, all of that stuff. And just happy to be here again. |
| 1:44.8 | One of the fun hours of the week is recording disordered. |
| 1:47.9 | Just watching Josh squirm under his Newcastle United hangover. |
| 1:52.7 | The afternoon, it was a big day yesterday. |
| 1:55.8 | Congrats. |
| 1:57.1 | Yeah, it was good. |
| 1:58.5 | It's a good reminder, actually. |
| 1:59.6 | I woke a bit, I bit of bit of anxiety this morning, which is one we could do. And the old habits kicked in. I was like, no, I'm not doing this. Just got to work. And yes, it was nice. Yeah, what a really good question in complete recovery? What do you get from that, that drew straight away um i got a commonality |
| 2:20.7 | so it's not just you if if the question sender in or is listening i promise it's not just you |
| 2:26.4 | this is a very very common story that we see in our community like i don't know what's wrong |
| 2:31.2 | i i keep slipping backwards or i can't get over this one thing. |
| 2:34.9 | And I usually hear it's the like when the person said, then I recovered again a second |
| 2:41.8 | time, I was able to do this and this and this, but not this. That's the clue. You know, |
| 2:46.5 | this usually indicates like, no, there's a line in the sand. There's a red zone that I've |
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