To love it, to invite it, I can't wait to be anxious again. When you're at that place, that's the real freedom.

Where you're not trying to manage yourself, that's where the real freedom is.

Welcome to the art of accomplishment, where we explore how deepening connection with ourselves and others

leads to creating the

life we want with enjoyment and ease.

I'm Brett Kistler, here today with my co-host, Joe Hudson.

All right. Hello, Joe. How are you doing today?

I am a bit under the weather today, actually. I woke up with a, or I went to sleep with just like a,

there's a little bit of a sore throat. Did the whole COVID testing was negative.

But yeah, a little under the weather, but still happy, still feeling good.

Just a little lack of energy.

Yeah, I know that whole, oh, I'm having

some symptoms. Is it COVID? A little anxiety there. Oh, no, what's just going to, is this going to be a two

week thing? Is it going to be over in a couple of days? Is it going to become far worse? Did I

give it to somebody? Who gave it to me? Do they know they have it? That's not happening. But yeah. But yeah, I can imagine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess I just assumed because like last time I spoke with you, you said you were in a love relationship with anxiety. And so I'm like, oh, well, if I was in a love with relationship with anxiety and I woke up feeling under the weather, this is like the go-to.

Yeah.

Where I would go.

The love relationship with anxiety came out of an experiment that I wanted to do, which was to as much as possible through the day, feel whatever anxiety I might be

having. So to get in touch with it in my physical person and just like, okay, just be in touch

with it without trying to change it, without trying to do anything just to like increase my

awareness of how anxiety moves through my system.

So that's what the love relationship with anxiety was. And that experiment has ceased.

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