'Antisocial' author Andrew Marantz on the 'virality industry' and the 'hijacking of the American conversation'

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🗓️ 11 October 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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New Yorker staff writer Andrew Marantz embedded with extremist "gate-crashers" teeming on social media platforms and the lax "gate-keepers" in Silicon Valley for his new book titled "Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno-Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation." In order to take the conversation back, Marantz tells Brian Stelter, "the only way forward is to really really look this stuff in the face." He also talks about the Overton Window, media manipulation, the "alt right," and the rise of white supremacist rhetoric on the internet.To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Online extremists have hijacked the American conversation.
0:06.3	That's the argument from a brand new book by New Yorker staff writer Andrew Morants.
0:10.6	The title is anti-social. The question it raises is, how do we take control the conversation
0:17.0	back?
0:18.0	I'm Brian Stelter and this is the Reliable Sources Podcast. It is our weekly chance to go more in depth with
0:24.3	media leaders and newsmakers talking about how the news gets made and how all of
0:29.3	us can help make it better and really that is a theme a subplot of this book titled anti-social.
0:36.4	The subtitle is online extremists, techno-utopians, and the hijacking of the American
0:42.2	conversation.
0:43.0	It makes you think about how the media landscape works or doesn't work and how maybe it can be made better.
0:49.0	Andrew is joining me now for a conversation all about it.
0:52.0	Andrew, congratulations on the book launch. Thank you. Andrew is joining me now for a conversation all about it.
0:52.7	Andrew, congratulations on the book launch.
0:54.2	Thank you, thanks for having me.
0:55.7	The title here, the subtitle referring to
0:57.6	hijacking of the American conversation.
1:00.4	The word hijacking comes up again and again and again.
1:03.0	So what do you mean by hijacking?
1:05.0	So I think we have this assumption that there is such a thing as actually JFK called it the
1:10.0	Great American Consensus.
1:12.0	Eventually this Great American Consensus will prevail and the
1:15.6	art of history will naturally bend toward justice. That's kind of the
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