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Hi, Paul.

Hi, Bob.

How are you today?

I can't complain.

How are you, Paul?

Oh, I already asked you that.

I'm doing well. Do you want to do it again? No, no, I can't complain. How are you, Paul? Oh, I already asked you that. I'm doing well.

Do you want to do it again? No, no, I thought, I think the spontaneity counts for something. People really value that.

I'm doing well. I like that. This is the non-zero podcast. You're Robert Wright, journalist, scholar, public intellectual.

I'm Paul Glenn, professor of psychology at University of Toronto.

Do you want to correct my introduction of you?

I was just going to say you could have kept going a little longer with my list of things, you know.

I don't think you got, you didn't come near covering the waterfront, but it's fine.

Say, I didn't hear the word sage. Did you sage i don't recall hearing that guru guru mystic mystic inspiration but come on come on i bet people

a lot of people just thought with journalists yeah i think you're but but scholar but scholar, definitely a scholar. And maybe we'll

discuss this later, because I feel there's a little bit of frustration that your scholarly

nature hasn't fully been recognized in public intellectual. It's so nice for you to say that,

Paul. I think it's, I think it was a nice introduction, actually. Yeah, no, that was nice. It got better as it went along.

So, yeah, I mean, look, if you're going to handle the introduction, go ahead, guide us.

What do we talk about?

Well, when we spoke last, we talked about the three speech issues, the campus issues revolving around the Israel-Palestine thing. I have one

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