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Anticipating Taylor Swift’s ‘The Life of a Showgirl’

Popcast

The New York Times

Music Interviews, Music Commentary, Music

3.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

The singer’s twelfth album is being teased as a pivot back to pop bangers. We break down why (and why she announced it the way she did). Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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0:00.0

It's the longest we've ever gone without a TaylorPod.

0:03.3

Yeah.

0:07.8

What was the last one?

0:09.5

Best Taylor albums all the time.

0:10.6

Is that the last one?

0:11.4

Yeah.

0:11.7

We didn't do a close of Aeros Tour thing?

0:13.3

Nope.

0:15.4

Wow.

0:17.3

I have to say, only watching this interview did it really hit me, I think, in part because of just what was happening in my life at the time.

0:26.6

But how disappointed I am that I didn't go to Arrow's Tour.

0:29.6

Oh, really?

0:30.5

Because...

0:31.5

I just missed a historic moment in an artist's career who I follow closely.

0:36.1

Because you're washed.

0:37.6

Yeah. Because I had're washed. Yeah.

0:38.4

Because I had a newborn.

0:41.7

I had a newborn.

0:43.2

They say I did something bad.

0:45.7

That was it feels so good.

0:48.2

Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your I did something bad.

0:52.5

I'm music, musing criticism.

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