Welcome to the Dr. Gundry Podcast, the weekly podcast where can live in vents on the bottom of the ocean in caves deep below the Earth's

surface and even inside you and me. I am talking of course about bacteria.

And they paradoxically are some of the most beneficial and harmful living organisms on the planet.

Responsible both for keeping you healthy and happy and for leading to dangerous

illnesses like pneumonia for example. Now in recent years scientists have sounded the

alarm about antibiotic resistant bacteria.

In fact, just last year, the World Health Organization said that antibiotic

resistant diseases could kill up to get this 10 million people every year by

2050. To help us make sense of how antibiotic resistant works. I'm joined today by Dr.

Mohammed Zaman. Dr. Zaman is a professor of biomedical engineering at Boston

University and is an expert on cell biology.

He's also the author of a brand new book called The Biography of Resistance, The Epic Battle between people and pathogens. Boy, what a timely

subject that is. On today's episode, Dr. Zaman and I will discuss the bacterial

secret hiding in the guts of a long lost tribe, the connection

between the food we eat and antibiotic resistance bacteria, and whether you should worry about antibiotic resistance.

Dr. Zaman, it's pleasure to have you on the podcast.

Thank you so my Dr. Gondry.

So let's start with this fascinating story that you tell in the book about antibiotic

resistance deep in a cave in New Mexico. Wait a minute, deep in a cave. Tell us about that.

Yeah, so, you know, this was a shocker for me as well.

So two scientists, Dr. Wright from Canada and Dr. Hazel Barton from University of Aikarn, and they teamed up together and Dr. Barton is sort of an expert in bacteria living in sort of deep caves and because bacteria, remember Dr. Henry, have been there

from the beginning of time, billions of years old. And so they teamed up and the idea was actually a very simple one to go deep in the caves that have never been touched by any human activity, caves that have been there for millions of years and see if the bacteria there that are not at all affected by human activity, by the use or abuse of drugs or bacterial products in the in the farms and see whether they are

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